Elon Musk gaining access to SS is worse than a cybercrime. Musk is not just grabbing data. He can actually gain control of the system. Musk is a private citizen - not a Federal employee.
This from The WSJ: “A person familiar with the arrangement said DOGE representatives won’t have direct authority to stop individual payments or make other changes, describing their access as “read only.” Bessent approved the arrangement on the condition that the DOGE representatives’ activity be documented and monitored. DOGE representatives intend to review the overall efficiency of the payment system, the person said”. Long established controls have clearly already been compromised, so the veracity of the described limitations is doubtful.
No no. This will take work from republicans who have any spine left. Democrats have warned. They were not wrong. This is a people vs the government about to happen.
Republicans afraid of trump should step down. We need congress men and women and senators to stand up. Access to the literal checkbook!!!! Elon was not elected and has no security clearance!!! Alarming ?! No. Terrified.
He is not an employee or a vetted contractor, so he should not have access to any US data. He needs security clearances; otherwise, he is no better than an illegal hacker.
You are thinking like a normal human being with morals and integrity, not like this group of sociopathic clones with a megalomaniac boss . They Raided and forcefully Hacked the most private and powerful control systems that grant them full access and control over our personal financial and private information which means he owns it and all of us, That includes everyone who has authority or influence that could potentially intervene or slow his racist global coup. This was in the works beginning 30 +years, ago and Trump served as the Master Distractor as he collaborated and aided those also working within the system of law and justice to weaken our laws,buy off justices ,and ultimately compromise our election process to take back his power in the White House.
We have invited the enemy into all our own homes by allowing Trump to get his revenge .via the keys to Democracy's annihilation He's been a malleable and useful tool due to his amoral appetites and his craving for revenge along with the riches he immediately gained as soon as he began his 2nd reign of horror. Helping Musk to scorch Earth in America must be his ultimate thrill ride as he continues to role play the head dictator. Off with all of our heads, if we displease the 'fearless leader' of a dying Nation
The deadliest villains were operating their shadow government in the background while we were bickering among ourselves about Biden's age and whether Kamala was more anti- Israel than others believed.
This was the most crucial election in our history as a Democracy and we just gave it alongside our own money and freedom on a gilded platter.
Make no mistake, this is a step by step Global Coup, not just his breech into once secure and private systems in order to gut our social security funds and whatever the hell else they can get their psychotic ,murderous greedy hands on .
His techy-bros have a sick dream of worldwide domination ,but why not reap the plentiful rewards by stealing every single penny these cyber pirates can hijack along the way? Years of military modified Psy-Opps used by General Mike Flynn has been insidiously and aggressively employed to radicalize youth through gaming platforms that target lonely and socially isolated groups of young men. . He has been extremely successful in grooming and converting teens and 20 somethings with Neo Nazi propaganda and desensitizing them to violence through the relentless programming hijacked from Military apps. They are creating cyber soldiers , loyal to thr false doctrines and brainwashed into believing they are helping to create a better world . This is not just about conspiracy theory craziness of the defunct Quanon culture. It's training for his New World Order,and He needs vast amounts of other peoples money to feed and house his shadow army and keep them loyal for his takeover. Donald Trump was never the key player in all of this terroristic ,surreal,but expanding dissonance . Elon Musk has quickly moved to achieved what he warned us about.
His team of illegal hacking intruders does not bode well for the citizens of our United States or any of the dominoe countries that will collapse just like the house of cards that Washington has become over the past 20 some years.
I wonder what reactions and resulting actions will manifest in the next 24 to 72 hours as masses of people realize there will possibly be no more financial survival from reliance on the funds they worked their whole adult lives for. Because they believed in a faux leader who promise them he was their chosen one,or decided not to vote all all set things in motion that will possibly become the trigger of another bloody revolution like the French mobs who took down the Elites when enough finally became intolerable Just as we see the replication of the rise of history in Nazi Germany and the playbook used to overrun and control the monetary systems ,Musk and Trump are recreating the horrors and crimes in plain sight
I ask myself every day ,will people just give up in total despair, deciding they no longer have any more energy to fight this billionaire bully?He holds no viable or legal position that would enable his authority to commit the breech that had just occurred. Are we already in a state of anarchy?
I still hope and hold onto a faint glimmering for positive outcomes regarding his and Trump's unlawful actions.
I will continue to firmly hold to the belief that truth and courage and even outrage will express themselves in a majority of Americans including our youth ,committed to organizing a staunch,but peaceful Resistance enMasse against all of the criminals in this present political timeline. Our people as a nation must demand that Musk and his co-conspirators be pursued ,detained,and punished as enemies of our government. He deserves to be imprisoned or better yet, permanently exiled in direct violation of our Constitutional rights as equal and lawfully citizens. I am neither Naive of ignorant to the depth of corruption that has greatly weakened our justice system enough to support a convicted felon to run for president,but Musk is not a legal citizen and had no official title or appointment within our executive branch. Multiple government contracts do not give him a short cut in to taking over and deciding what the rest of our lives will become. That reality is so stunningly horrifying, I can't even bring myself to consider it as a possibility. Trump in the White House for 4 years was enough to undo my faith in the voters I hoped would rally and keep us from exactly what Musk is attempting or accomplishing right now
He spent most of 2024 dropping hints and innuendos on his disgusting Nazi worshipping platform X, posting about all of the "alterations" he would be forcing on Americans when Trump took power,and that it would become painful or uncomfortable,"temporarily ' for many of us. It's been no secret how long the GOP has had our Social Security funding on the chopping block due to the unwarranted leeching of our money since Regan enabled them to ' borrow ' billions of what was never replenished. Trump pushed the debt levels into the Trillions before Biden inherited his mess and Musk was his perfect solution to cover his unforgivable stupidity and incompetency.
This is All up to the People now, while we still have the ability to organize and arm ourselves with all the tools we need to utilize before Martial Law is inevitably invoked, and all the private information he's gleaned is used to intrude and forcefully take utter control over all we thought was unbreechable and protected from those like this phony con president with a bunch of emotionally stunted Billionaires.
The shut down period of the Covid pandemic may have been used for nefarious reasons,as part of a testing platform to profile and develop algorithms of those who complied, and who resisted, in order to develop delivery methods of disinformation and fear mongering to keep us constantly suspicious, distracted and weakened mentally and physically. Tyranny begins with these manipulations.
These social experiments aimed at us may have been duplicitously used to study ways to pacify and restrain large populations during a global crisis. Why not take advantage of a massive tragedy to gain more inroads towards the ultimate goal of the New World Order? Cost was certainly not an issue with the vast amounts of wealth of worldwide Oligarchs partnering up to divide and control the sheeple as we are often referred to by the Elite
I'm not negating nor denying the great costs of suffering and unnecessary deaths or even the origins of Covid 19 , just suggesting it may been used to learn and improve methodology to gain complete control over this country when time was in their favor .
Too many of us took the bait and now Elon Fucking Musk is a World dominating cyber pirate , illegally acquiring illegal avenues of even more stolen money, behaving in as sinister and notorious manner as Captein Blackbeard on a Raiding party for the gold and riches of the American People. Is this beyond what his fellow Broligarchs imagined or even dreamed Elon Musk was capable of pulling off? Pirates have a romantic and adventurous ambiance and anti-hero type of following, but Musk is a Cringey Creep and undeserving of anything but our total disgust for his life long alliance to South Africa Apartheid racism , plus a generational loyalty to Hitler through both parents who raised him as a born and bred White Supremicst. For anyone to underestimates him or allows him to continue his rampage of destruction within our own system and ultimately every single one of our lives is too terrible to deny as a possibility. Do not obey in advance! Do not comply with the mandates of a Convicted Felon masked as a President and protect yourself and your loved ones by keeping vigilant and informed about every single underhanded attempt or attack they mount against our rights and financial sources . This is a war on more than the soul of our country, it's about survival for every person on this planet.
Thank you, Karen, for encapsulating much of what I’ve read since I started on Substack at 5:00 AM. I will copy this and reread lest I ever forget. Your words that linger on my brain for now are “in plain sight”. I can’t say I have confidence in my fellow citizens since I know many, many will be fixated on Super Bowl pre show entertainment and braggadocio ALL week and thank you corporate media for your worthless input. So glad I dumped you all including MSNBC (luckily Lawrence O’Donnell can be seen on YouTube). So glad I have my local Indivisible to address so much of this and to work with. Thanks again, Karen.
Looking back over all that has been said in jest or hypotheticals; one can draw the lines of how it has been set up, see the bragging, while many scoffed at the idea of a takeover.
Yes, he SHOULDN'T have access, and he NEEDS security clearances. To that, the orange sadist & co. say, "So what? Screw that! We do whatever we want to do."
Elon Musk has a Top-Secret Clearance, probably a SSBI... How He Got That I Do Not Know... Elan Musk admits to being Nero-Divergent, and use of Hallucinogens....
Ah Ha! That explains the radical personality change in Elon, >> psychedelics. Oh great - and he’s in control of the Fed and has access to U.S. Data? Are we now living in Alice in Wonderland? This can’t really be happening! I must be in the midst of a NIGHTMARE, can’t I please wake the fk up!?!
You're welcome! The new classification omits Asperger's as a diagnosis, and refers only to "Autism SPECTRUM Disorder". People who were formerly diagnosed as having Asperger's are now classified on the milder end of ASD.
From what I have read and understand about autism, including friends with young adult offspring on the autism spectrum, they lack empathy. Does that also vary in degree along the spectrum? In any case, a person without empathy, or with impaired empathy, should not be deciding which Americans and which aid organizations get funding and which do not. All this is in addition to the fact that Musk has massive conflicts of interest, which are disqualifying, in themselves; and that he has neither been properly vetted for a "top security" clearance, nor confirmed by the Senate, along with his made-up "department of DOGE", for this incredibly sensitive, far-reaching and intrusive position into our government and personal information. What, exactly, are the limitations on him? Can anyone answer that? It is certainly not only an "audit", in fact, it is not a valid or legitimate audit at all.
"admits to being neurodivergent"? What do you mean by that? It sounds abelist as fuck. Autism diagnosis doesn't exclude someone from security clearance.
Please don't tell an autistic person what we are or are not. And I don't need to "admit" to being autistic. I'm telling you. Autistic people don't need to "admit" anything, it's not a fucking crime or a defect.
Definitely affects social skills. I put the orange sadist in the ASD category long, long ago. Social skills are so necessary in dealing with the many, many, many people that a president, and anyone with power over others, should have.
A person can be both. Also, I don't think Apache meant "admitting to be neuro divergent" as something that musk is ashamed of. I think he meant it in the sense of "he went pubic with it". That's how I perceived Musk's announcement, anyway. (Didn't Bill Gates do pretty much the same thing?)
It really depends on the person and the therapy they’ve received. There are neurodivergent people all around you. Many seemingly ordinary people experience some degree of perceptual or sensory difference. There are neurodivergent professionals in every possible profession.
This comment above! And, I would add, his commercial, business relationship via Tesla, (and personal relationship, too?) with Xi of China. The latter are VERY compromising to US national security and should absolutely be disqualifying. China demands foreigners doing business in China turn over intelligence, including classified intelligence, to Xi's Chinese state. So, Musk has TWO HUGE RED FLAGS regarding US national security. It is incomprehensible that he is being allowed to get anywhere near our federal government's most sensitive information, data and secrets. is this national suicide, or what??!
I am DEEPLY concerned about this horrific new development. It is absolutely NOT "by chance" that this was done on a Saturday when offices in D.C. are shut down, and people are not paying attention to the nightly news. This is how it happens. In secret, in the dark.
I don't think you can be alarmist -- take over our data, take over our society. Musk holds no elected or public office. This is an attack on the people of the United States.
The entire model of tech surveillance capitalism has our data. I am afraid this is not going to alarm too many people. We are already desensitized to it, and we know the government tends to be more incompetent with our data privacy than any other entities.
YES! I said the same thing Friday night. There is literally no legit reason for anyone to be plugging hard drives into these systems. I think most people do not get it
I wrote a Senator that Elon Musk has not been vetted by the Senate to have this access. It is not the same as the clearance he has via SpaceX and NASA.
I live in NJ under the approach for PHL. We have been inundated with Reaper drones. These are large government military type drones. They look like airplanes, but they are not. Think of any video from Palestine. The hum of circling drones. Some of those drones are large Reaper drones. It occurs every night over West Berlin, NJ. Large shopping plaza with a ShopRite is an excellent viewing area. They begin to fly over just as it’s dark. West Berlin is southeast from me. 15 minutes down Route 73. They aren’t flying near me and PHL. They fly over West Berlin to points unknown. They are NOT airplanes. No jet landing at PHL swings that far out. Approach either over my house or over the neighborhood across the street. On summer nights I sit out on the lawn and watch the planes stack up and fly over me one by one. I have video.
We're just sitting around watching this happen and nobody is doing anything to stop it. A lot of seniors are going to die if their social security and Medicare are mismanaged or shut down. But the rich oligarchs won't even care.
We are watching the method by which he got the algorithms to the voting machines software with which he fixed the race for The Orange Turd
Why do I have this nagging feeling that this was Trump's qui pro quo for injecting millions into his campaign? in effect "I give you a win, you give me a mailing list of all Americans so that I can pinpoint the clients for my diverse product portfolio."
You are right about the hacking of the voting machines' software. This has been well documented as the Russian Tail Hack. That plus the massive vote suppression, purging of registered voters from the rolls, and throwing out of mail-in ballots in areas with large Democratic constituencies was enough to flip the election from Kamala to Trump. And NO ONE OBJECTED to the certification of his EC votes, even though Trump is clearly DISQUALIFED per the 14th Amendment, Section 3. He should not have been sworn in by Roberts.
That said, I believe Muskrat wants much more than just a mailing list of all Americans he can sell his crappy Tesla cars and cyber trucks to, or governments/corporations/militaries to whom he can sell his exploding Space X rockets. And then there's his Neuralink...shudder! The white supremacist Nazi, Elon, wants total fascist, kleptocratic control on a global level for him and his billionaire bro PayPal Mafia. They are trying to impose a sociopathic 'Nerd Reich' on US and the world.
I just emailed all of my local & federal elected officials, thank you for inspiring me to action. Copied & pasted your words, thank you for writing them: "Who authorized Musk and his aides to take control of federal payment systems and our sensitive data? What safeguards are in place to prevent abuse of this access? How will our financial and personal information be used? Who is holding DOGE, OPM, GSA, and TTS accountable for these breaches of protocol? "
Musk, DOGE should be sued for the theft of Personal identifiable information and racketeering. Yes, racketeering. They are private individuals that have no business accessing every American PII's. It's a cause for a criminal complaint the very least, most likely a class action suit. Their take over does constitute breach of government security.
Absolutely correct. It is definitely RACKETEERING! And we desperately need a massive class action lawsuit re stolen PII and civil service employees' personal information, for starters, at the very least. And then they need to be criminally prosecuted for breach of national security, theft and racketeering.
Elon Musk gaining access to SS is worse than a cybercrime. Musk is not just grabbing data. He can actually gain control of the system. Musk is a private citizen - not a Federal employee.
Musk is aiming to become what his phone friend, Vlad Putin is.
Exactly! ^ So - How the Hell did this happen?
According to this article the newly appointed Treasury Secretary let it happen!!!
This from The WSJ: “A person familiar with the arrangement said DOGE representatives won’t have direct authority to stop individual payments or make other changes, describing their access as “read only.” Bessent approved the arrangement on the condition that the DOGE representatives’ activity be documented and monitored. DOGE representatives intend to review the overall efficiency of the payment system, the person said”. Long established controls have clearly already been compromised, so the veracity of the described limitations is doubtful.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musks-doge-getting-access-to-payment-system-that-doles-out-trillions-to-americans-5625adf0
The Orange Felon made a deal
Our so-called paid elected officials (Dems who do nothing) are now the enablers.
No no. This will take work from republicans who have any spine left. Democrats have warned. They were not wrong. This is a people vs the government about to happen.
Republicans afraid of trump should step down. We need congress men and women and senators to stand up. Access to the literal checkbook!!!! Elon was not elected and has no security clearance!!! Alarming ?! No. Terrified.
Most clueless comment of this entire thread.🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ Do some research and stop listening to Fox and OAN exclusively.
Wow... you do realize that Republicans are actually in the majority and set the agenda? Meaning they could stop this if they wanted to?
R’s will stop it if their constituents tell them to bc they care more about getting reelected than they do about our country.
How are Dems responsible for this?
What exactly are they supposed to do, pass a law?
He is not an employee or a vetted contractor, so he should not have access to any US data. He needs security clearances; otherwise, he is no better than an illegal hacker.
You are thinking like a normal human being with morals and integrity, not like this group of sociopathic clones with a megalomaniac boss . They Raided and forcefully Hacked the most private and powerful control systems that grant them full access and control over our personal financial and private information which means he owns it and all of us, That includes everyone who has authority or influence that could potentially intervene or slow his racist global coup. This was in the works beginning 30 +years, ago and Trump served as the Master Distractor as he collaborated and aided those also working within the system of law and justice to weaken our laws,buy off justices ,and ultimately compromise our election process to take back his power in the White House.
We have invited the enemy into all our own homes by allowing Trump to get his revenge .via the keys to Democracy's annihilation He's been a malleable and useful tool due to his amoral appetites and his craving for revenge along with the riches he immediately gained as soon as he began his 2nd reign of horror. Helping Musk to scorch Earth in America must be his ultimate thrill ride as he continues to role play the head dictator. Off with all of our heads, if we displease the 'fearless leader' of a dying Nation
The deadliest villains were operating their shadow government in the background while we were bickering among ourselves about Biden's age and whether Kamala was more anti- Israel than others believed.
This was the most crucial election in our history as a Democracy and we just gave it alongside our own money and freedom on a gilded platter.
Make no mistake, this is a step by step Global Coup, not just his breech into once secure and private systems in order to gut our social security funds and whatever the hell else they can get their psychotic ,murderous greedy hands on .
His techy-bros have a sick dream of worldwide domination ,but why not reap the plentiful rewards by stealing every single penny these cyber pirates can hijack along the way? Years of military modified Psy-Opps used by General Mike Flynn has been insidiously and aggressively employed to radicalize youth through gaming platforms that target lonely and socially isolated groups of young men. . He has been extremely successful in grooming and converting teens and 20 somethings with Neo Nazi propaganda and desensitizing them to violence through the relentless programming hijacked from Military apps. They are creating cyber soldiers , loyal to thr false doctrines and brainwashed into believing they are helping to create a better world . This is not just about conspiracy theory craziness of the defunct Quanon culture. It's training for his New World Order,and He needs vast amounts of other peoples money to feed and house his shadow army and keep them loyal for his takeover. Donald Trump was never the key player in all of this terroristic ,surreal,but expanding dissonance . Elon Musk has quickly moved to achieved what he warned us about.
His team of illegal hacking intruders does not bode well for the citizens of our United States or any of the dominoe countries that will collapse just like the house of cards that Washington has become over the past 20 some years.
I wonder what reactions and resulting actions will manifest in the next 24 to 72 hours as masses of people realize there will possibly be no more financial survival from reliance on the funds they worked their whole adult lives for. Because they believed in a faux leader who promise them he was their chosen one,or decided not to vote all all set things in motion that will possibly become the trigger of another bloody revolution like the French mobs who took down the Elites when enough finally became intolerable Just as we see the replication of the rise of history in Nazi Germany and the playbook used to overrun and control the monetary systems ,Musk and Trump are recreating the horrors and crimes in plain sight
I ask myself every day ,will people just give up in total despair, deciding they no longer have any more energy to fight this billionaire bully?He holds no viable or legal position that would enable his authority to commit the breech that had just occurred. Are we already in a state of anarchy?
I still hope and hold onto a faint glimmering for positive outcomes regarding his and Trump's unlawful actions.
I will continue to firmly hold to the belief that truth and courage and even outrage will express themselves in a majority of Americans including our youth ,committed to organizing a staunch,but peaceful Resistance enMasse against all of the criminals in this present political timeline. Our people as a nation must demand that Musk and his co-conspirators be pursued ,detained,and punished as enemies of our government. He deserves to be imprisoned or better yet, permanently exiled in direct violation of our Constitutional rights as equal and lawfully citizens. I am neither Naive of ignorant to the depth of corruption that has greatly weakened our justice system enough to support a convicted felon to run for president,but Musk is not a legal citizen and had no official title or appointment within our executive branch. Multiple government contracts do not give him a short cut in to taking over and deciding what the rest of our lives will become. That reality is so stunningly horrifying, I can't even bring myself to consider it as a possibility. Trump in the White House for 4 years was enough to undo my faith in the voters I hoped would rally and keep us from exactly what Musk is attempting or accomplishing right now
He spent most of 2024 dropping hints and innuendos on his disgusting Nazi worshipping platform X, posting about all of the "alterations" he would be forcing on Americans when Trump took power,and that it would become painful or uncomfortable,"temporarily ' for many of us. It's been no secret how long the GOP has had our Social Security funding on the chopping block due to the unwarranted leeching of our money since Regan enabled them to ' borrow ' billions of what was never replenished. Trump pushed the debt levels into the Trillions before Biden inherited his mess and Musk was his perfect solution to cover his unforgivable stupidity and incompetency.
This is All up to the People now, while we still have the ability to organize and arm ourselves with all the tools we need to utilize before Martial Law is inevitably invoked, and all the private information he's gleaned is used to intrude and forcefully take utter control over all we thought was unbreechable and protected from those like this phony con president with a bunch of emotionally stunted Billionaires.
The shut down period of the Covid pandemic may have been used for nefarious reasons,as part of a testing platform to profile and develop algorithms of those who complied, and who resisted, in order to develop delivery methods of disinformation and fear mongering to keep us constantly suspicious, distracted and weakened mentally and physically. Tyranny begins with these manipulations.
These social experiments aimed at us may have been duplicitously used to study ways to pacify and restrain large populations during a global crisis. Why not take advantage of a massive tragedy to gain more inroads towards the ultimate goal of the New World Order? Cost was certainly not an issue with the vast amounts of wealth of worldwide Oligarchs partnering up to divide and control the sheeple as we are often referred to by the Elite
I'm not negating nor denying the great costs of suffering and unnecessary deaths or even the origins of Covid 19 , just suggesting it may been used to learn and improve methodology to gain complete control over this country when time was in their favor .
Too many of us took the bait and now Elon Fucking Musk is a World dominating cyber pirate , illegally acquiring illegal avenues of even more stolen money, behaving in as sinister and notorious manner as Captein Blackbeard on a Raiding party for the gold and riches of the American People. Is this beyond what his fellow Broligarchs imagined or even dreamed Elon Musk was capable of pulling off? Pirates have a romantic and adventurous ambiance and anti-hero type of following, but Musk is a Cringey Creep and undeserving of anything but our total disgust for his life long alliance to South Africa Apartheid racism , plus a generational loyalty to Hitler through both parents who raised him as a born and bred White Supremicst. For anyone to underestimates him or allows him to continue his rampage of destruction within our own system and ultimately every single one of our lives is too terrible to deny as a possibility. Do not obey in advance! Do not comply with the mandates of a Convicted Felon masked as a President and protect yourself and your loved ones by keeping vigilant and informed about every single underhanded attempt or attack they mount against our rights and financial sources . This is a war on more than the soul of our country, it's about survival for every person on this planet.
Thank you, Karen, for encapsulating much of what I’ve read since I started on Substack at 5:00 AM. I will copy this and reread lest I ever forget. Your words that linger on my brain for now are “in plain sight”. I can’t say I have confidence in my fellow citizens since I know many, many will be fixated on Super Bowl pre show entertainment and braggadocio ALL week and thank you corporate media for your worthless input. So glad I dumped you all including MSNBC (luckily Lawrence O’Donnell can be seen on YouTube). So glad I have my local Indivisible to address so much of this and to work with. Thanks again, Karen.
"and thank you corporate media for your worthless input" (Agree with everything you wrote.)
Looking back over all that has been said in jest or hypotheticals; one can draw the lines of how it has been set up, see the bragging, while many scoffed at the idea of a takeover.
Yes, he SHOULDN'T have access, and he NEEDS security clearances. To that, the orange sadist & co. say, "So what? Screw that! We do whatever we want to do."
Elon Musk has a Top-Secret Clearance, probably a SSBI... How He Got That I Do Not Know... Elan Musk admits to being Nero-Divergent, and use of Hallucinogens....
Being neurodivergent doesn’t make you a sociopathic madman—Musk is a 3rd generation fascist.
I know that... It is said that many 'Techies' have some degree of Autism... It helps them focus on the exacting focus of Technical Minutiae...
Ah Ha! That explains the radical personality change in Elon, >> psychedelics. Oh great - and he’s in control of the Fed and has access to U.S. Data? Are we now living in Alice in Wonderland? This can’t really be happening! I must be in the midst of a NIGHTMARE, can’t I please wake the fk up!?!
(neuro divergent -- i.e., on the autism spectrum)
Right. But I'm just calling him an idiot-savant.
KD... Thanks for the Correction.... Elon also admits to having Asperger's...
You're welcome! The new classification omits Asperger's as a diagnosis, and refers only to "Autism SPECTRUM Disorder". People who were formerly diagnosed as having Asperger's are now classified on the milder end of ASD.
.....and this guy had an input into kicking out an aviation head because?
Trump said something about disabled people with the FAA, but he chose one to make decisions about the FAA leadership
Touche'
From what I have read and understand about autism, including friends with young adult offspring on the autism spectrum, they lack empathy. Does that also vary in degree along the spectrum? In any case, a person without empathy, or with impaired empathy, should not be deciding which Americans and which aid organizations get funding and which do not. All this is in addition to the fact that Musk has massive conflicts of interest, which are disqualifying, in themselves; and that he has neither been properly vetted for a "top security" clearance, nor confirmed by the Senate, along with his made-up "department of DOGE", for this incredibly sensitive, far-reaching and intrusive position into our government and personal information. What, exactly, are the limitations on him? Can anyone answer that? It is certainly not only an "audit", in fact, it is not a valid or legitimate audit at all.
Yes! Definitely variation both along the spectrum, as well as variation among high/higher functioning individuals.
Donna... This is very Knowledgeable... It describes Elon Musk, and a lot of 'Nerds'... Maybe Vulcans as Well... ;-)
Thanks KD... You sound knowledgeable.... Wait, You Are A Psychiatrist!!! Namaste...
(Retired psychiatrist. I keep up on some of these things. :-) )
LOL!
"admits to being neurodivergent"? What do you mean by that? It sounds abelist as fuck. Autism diagnosis doesn't exclude someone from security clearance.
It is the use of Hallucinogens... Admit to that, and then try to get a TS Clearance... Autism implements in Degrees... It does affect Social Skills...
Please don't tell an autistic person what we are or are not. And I don't need to "admit" to being autistic. I'm telling you. Autistic people don't need to "admit" anything, it's not a fucking crime or a defect.
I'm not making a Judgement...
Definitely affects social skills. I put the orange sadist in the ASD category long, long ago. Social skills are so necessary in dealing with the many, many, many people that a president, and anyone with power over others, should have.
He is absolutely NOT autistic!!! Not by any criteria. He's a sociopath.
A person can be both. Also, I don't think Apache meant "admitting to be neuro divergent" as something that musk is ashamed of. I think he meant it in the sense of "he went pubic with it". That's how I perceived Musk's announcement, anyway. (Didn't Bill Gates do pretty much the same thing?)
It really depends on the person and the therapy they’ve received. There are neurodivergent people all around you. Many seemingly ordinary people experience some degree of perceptual or sensory difference. There are neurodivergent professionals in every possible profession.
His personal relationship to Putin is a giant red flag.
This comment above! And, I would add, his commercial, business relationship via Tesla, (and personal relationship, too?) with Xi of China. The latter are VERY compromising to US national security and should absolutely be disqualifying. China demands foreigners doing business in China turn over intelligence, including classified intelligence, to Xi's Chinese state. So, Musk has TWO HUGE RED FLAGS regarding US national security. It is incomprehensible that he is being allowed to get anywhere near our federal government's most sensitive information, data and secrets. is this national suicide, or what??!
He IS LITERALLY an ILLEGAL HACKER
I am DEEPLY concerned about this horrific new development. It is absolutely NOT "by chance" that this was done on a Saturday when offices in D.C. are shut down, and people are not paying attention to the nightly news. This is how it happens. In secret, in the dark.
I don't think you can be alarmist -- take over our data, take over our society. Musk holds no elected or public office. This is an attack on the people of the United States.
The entire model of tech surveillance capitalism has our data. I am afraid this is not going to alarm too many people. We are already desensitized to it, and we know the government tends to be more incompetent with our data privacy than any other entities.
You are not alarmist xxx you are wonderful and absolutely essential x thank you!!
He needs to be arrested *right now*. As does whoever granted him & these random people access to our systems.
YES! I said the same thing Friday night. There is literally no legit reason for anyone to be plugging hard drives into these systems. I think most people do not get it
I wrote a Senator that Elon Musk has not been vetted by the Senate to have this access. It is not the same as the clearance he has via SpaceX and NASA.
I live in NJ under the approach for PHL. We have been inundated with Reaper drones. These are large government military type drones. They look like airplanes, but they are not. Think of any video from Palestine. The hum of circling drones. Some of those drones are large Reaper drones. It occurs every night over West Berlin, NJ. Large shopping plaza with a ShopRite is an excellent viewing area. They begin to fly over just as it’s dark. West Berlin is southeast from me. 15 minutes down Route 73. They aren’t flying near me and PHL. They fly over West Berlin to points unknown. They are NOT airplanes. No jet landing at PHL swings that far out. Approach either over my house or over the neighborhood across the street. On summer nights I sit out on the lawn and watch the planes stack up and fly over me one by one. I have video.
Wtf is going on? Thank you for letting us know! 🙏
Stephen... Thanks For Sharing...
I we can’t post a photo much less a video in replies. DM.
Ha! They deleted their silly comment.
This Is A Very Good Post Olga... Thank-You...
We're just sitting around watching this happen and nobody is doing anything to stop it. A lot of seniors are going to die if their social security and Medicare are mismanaged or shut down. But the rich oligarchs won't even care.
This is the start of the thread I saw earlier
🧵 Fun Fact:
When Bessent gave Musk access to Treasury’s payment system, he also gave him access to the banking info of:
1) Every former President & Vice President, former Cabinet Members and appointees with direct deposit.
2) Every Member of the House & Senate, with direct deposit.
3) Every federal employee with direct deposit.
4) Every federal retiree with direct deposit.
5) Every member of the U.S. Armed Services with direct deposit. 1/3
https://www.threads.net/@mariselmoralesnyc/post/DFjeDuCRjv8?xmt=AQGzFqzzMb3rNBQ3HQE3tuFdApSOmqD51bvFt33HZ7Z-5Jp5lA
We’re playing by the old rules, they’re playing by no rules. We better get a strategy because time is not on our side.
We are watching the method by which he got the algorithms to the voting machines software with which he fixed the race for The Orange Turd
Why do I have this nagging feeling that this was Trump's qui pro quo for injecting millions into his campaign? in effect "I give you a win, you give me a mailing list of all Americans so that I can pinpoint the clients for my diverse product portfolio."
He sold us to Musk!!!
You are right about the hacking of the voting machines' software. This has been well documented as the Russian Tail Hack. That plus the massive vote suppression, purging of registered voters from the rolls, and throwing out of mail-in ballots in areas with large Democratic constituencies was enough to flip the election from Kamala to Trump. And NO ONE OBJECTED to the certification of his EC votes, even though Trump is clearly DISQUALIFED per the 14th Amendment, Section 3. He should not have been sworn in by Roberts.
That said, I believe Muskrat wants much more than just a mailing list of all Americans he can sell his crappy Tesla cars and cyber trucks to, or governments/corporations/militaries to whom he can sell his exploding Space X rockets. And then there's his Neuralink...shudder! The white supremacist Nazi, Elon, wants total fascist, kleptocratic control on a global level for him and his billionaire bro PayPal Mafia. They are trying to impose a sociopathic 'Nerd Reich' on US and the world.
Read this Substack report. Sounds credible
https://substack.com/@whistleblowernyc/note/p-153003086?r=1xs62j&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
there needs to be a lot more outrage going on!!!
I just emailed all of my local & federal elected officials, thank you for inspiring me to action. Copied & pasted your words, thank you for writing them: "Who authorized Musk and his aides to take control of federal payment systems and our sensitive data? What safeguards are in place to prevent abuse of this access? How will our financial and personal information be used? Who is holding DOGE, OPM, GSA, and TTS accountable for these breaches of protocol? "
Musk, DOGE should be sued for the theft of Personal identifiable information and racketeering. Yes, racketeering. They are private individuals that have no business accessing every American PII's. It's a cause for a criminal complaint the very least, most likely a class action suit. Their take over does constitute breach of government security.
Absolutely correct. It is definitely RACKETEERING! And we desperately need a massive class action lawsuit re stolen PII and civil service employees' personal information, for starters, at the very least. And then they need to be criminally prosecuted for breach of national security, theft and racketeering.